Wednesday 2 May 2007

Lying With Integrity


Comments On Other People's Blogs:

http://curly-sue7.blogspot.com/
"Well to begin with I wasn't sure whether the two words, LYING and INTEGRITY, could be linked together in the same sentence. Surely they contradict each other? Lying with integrity, the possession of firm principles: the quality of possessing and steadfastly adhering to high moral principles or professional standards? But we talked in the lecture about lying for the "right reasons", or "white lies" as we call them, lies that we tell for the good of others, or do we?
It is true that when a lie is told it is often difficult to determine who's best interest it is in. White lies are apparently lies which we tell to prevent our loved ones from getting hurt - or is it to save our own morals from being undermined? I believe that there are some rare examples of selfless lies, but I also believe that a lot of the time lies are being told for our own satisfaction. For example, if a four year old child's mother died of an overdose, it would be up to the family to explain to the child how his mother died, but they would have to use a euphemism and not go into detail on what caused the parents death. This to me would be a selfless lie, as it is in the interest of the child, because he is too young and innocent to possibly understand the circumstances of his mothers death.
Some lies can be completely selfish or even have the cover of being selfless when really they are not. Some lies can appear to be in the interests of others when really the teller of the lie is also receiving something from it. There are also malicious lies, lies which are told with the sole purpose of hurting someone. These type of lies I find unnecessary and evil, and I think they hold no real purpose except self gratification. For example, the protagonist of the play, Billy Liar is a complete pathological liar, who tells lies for his own good and lies that are completely nonsensical.
I have to admit that I have lied - but who doesn't? - and I still do in certain circumstances though I know I am no pathological liar, if anything i can be too honest at times, but i think throughout life lying is needed. There is no denying that lies, even of the "little white" variety still cause pain somewhere along the line - though there are the few that "slip the net", so to speak and are never discovered. Like my earlier example of the child who's parent had overdosed. The child will eventually discover how his mother died and will quite possibly resent the people who failed to tell him when he was younger. Some lies are an essential part of your survival kit through life. If your girlfriend asks you if you think she looks fat in her new dress, you reply "NO!" as if it is a reflex because you know what will happen if you don't! Honesty isn't always the best policy, but lying can sometimes be no alternative either! I think we just have to know where to draw the line."



http://blair-beingbad.blogspot.com/
"Lying is one of the qualities that separates humans from animals. Lying can come in a variety of forms. It can be simply getting things to go your way through deception; to conceal the truth from others; and to get someone to be more attracted to you through lies. The question that must be asked is is all lying bad?In most cases, we can say that by not telling the truth or modifying facts can be considered morally bad. Our consciences normally say that it was bad to tell a lie normally since further lies may have to be told to cover your tracks. The degree of severity of the lie is a factor. Cheating on a partner and lying about it is worse than saying you went to the dentist when you did not! But, there are certain circumstances where I believe it is justified to withhold the truth.For example, telling young children that Santa Claus exists to provide them presents at Christmas time is an obvious lie, since Santa Claus does not exist, and the parents provide the presents. The magic lies in telling them about this amazing man who everyone loves and provides presents for children every year. The naivety of children makes a better scenario than our parents giving us gifts.Lying could also be justified if it involves protecting yourself or others from serious harm. However, if it did involve breaking the law I would personally have to admit to the problem, even if it did mean serious consequences i.e. going to prison after committing an offence. Lying would only exacerbate the situation and make it worse.Lying is a defence mechanism, as described by Lister in Red Dwarf, but it is only justified in limited circumstances. Lying can be bad, and I do not like to lie, and when I do, it is not often. There are certain times I have lied in the past to get out of minor trouble but, I don't think I have ever had to lie to cover a major fault. I am a very honest person and as the famous quote goes "Honesty is the best policy..."Here is a link to an interesting article on the current war in Iraq and should George W. Bush be impeached for the reasons for going to war in 2003:http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/06/findlaw.analysis.dean.wmd/"

I think that these two blogs ironically describe lies in a truthful manner. Everyone has lied at some point in their lives, usually just minor lies that won'e necessarily harm anyone, but they have still told them for whatever reason. Lying is a part of human nature, and although it is often frowned upon, it is also an accepted fact. It is the people on the receiving end of lies, who are the victims of deciet, that lies hurt the most, even small white lies can weaken your trust in someone close. Lying is not morally "good," and this is particularly the case if it involves abusing the law and justice system, or if someone is adulterous. One small lie can create a web of indestructable lies, and this can become very dangerous. Everyone lies, but a line always has to drawn as to the extent one is bending the truth.

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